of the senate intelligence commitee, the democrat, diian feinstein has been a prominent supporter of the nsa, but yesterday, and maybe for the first time, she broke ranks and claimed she is totally opposed to spying on leaders of allies. she also said that the white house told her it would stop the practice. a senior official later said that isn't true, but added the administration is considering the move. katherine herridge is live with us right over here. in europe, they seem all of a sudden to be obsessed with this, hearings and people speaking out. katherine, what else has happened at this hearing? >> well, sheperd, so far really two major headlines from james clapper, the nation's intelligence chief. the first was clearly to make the case that these controversial nsa programs are justified, clapper testified a short time ago that 2500 people were killed by terrorists just this last month, and he used that as a sign that the threat is evolving and growing. let's listen. >> in just this last month, 2,336 people were killed, 1510 injured in pakistan, afghanistan, syria, iraq, and nigeria.